Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life
Yesterday I was hanging out with my friend, and somehow after smoking a few bowls, our conversation lead to abortion. We began discussing our views and opinions on it, and I dont know why but what we were talking about seemed so interesting. Got me thinking and s#it ..in case you wanted to know I'm Pro-Choice, my friend is Pro-Life. Which one are you? What are your thoughts on the subject? Feel free to post as you wish, you will not be judged here.
April 9, 2014
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Pro choice because the idea of not having 100% control over your own body is disgusting and un-American.
@LazyLazyLazy: I've seen pictures, and believe me they are horrible..but the fetuses(?) don't even look human. They look like a tiny disgusting alien.
[quote=WeBelieve]I am Pro-Life because you are basically killing a fetus.. and if you seen pictures of it.. omg! It's horrible!
TBH I feel that people who have sex know the possible consequences of it ( getting pregnant). They need to face the consequences. If you allow abortion to happen, there may be people out there who would just get an abortion like it means nothing to them, and do it constantly..[/quote]
Human fetuses look scary like something from a horror movie
I am Pro-Life because you are basically killing a fetus.. and if you seen pictures of it.. omg! It's horrible!
TBH I feel that people who have sex know the possible consequences of it ( getting pregnant). They need to face the consequences. If you allow abortion to happen, there may be people out there who would just get an abortion like it means nothing to them, and do it constantly..
@BoredAF: No doubt! If my girl were to get preg and she knew and didnt tell me, then had it aborted..I'd be pretty f#cking mad!
But in the case of younger folk, where it was unplanned and the condom just happened to "slip off" , or she "forgot" to take the pill that day, sometimes it can very well save a life from living a certain type of life. Lots of factor here is what Im trying to get at.
[quote=tyuiop67890]It's as if iDrinkOJ is trying to troll and get a response.
I'm pro-life here, because I still believe that a "bundle of cells" is still considered life. Also, a lot of my reasons also match with dopeazn's.
And I'm also Christian, so a religious aspect is also part of it.[/quote]
you're dumb. how is my response even trolling.
It's as if iDrinkOJ is trying to troll and get a response.
I'm pro-life here, because I still believe that a "bundle of cells" is still considered life. Also, a lot of my reasons also match with dopeazn's.
And I'm also Christian, so a religious aspect is also part of it.
all pro choice people are going to hell for murder congrats.
pro choice people are so selfish. what about the baby that you've/help created it doesn't have a choice to live or die.
can't do the time, don't do the crime. take some damn responsibility for your actions.
Pro-choice. Almost anyone can make a baby, not everyone has the resources to raise one. It's not like health clinics that provide abortion services don't also offer help or things to prevent pregnancy. Maybe if pro-life advocates also advocate funding to raise those future children then sure.
But ultimately it's up to the person carrying it to term, I guess. The option of abortion should be there if anyone needs up until a certain point.
I would say pro life but a friend that I had nearly got wrecked if it wasn't for pro choice so im kinda on the fence
[quote=TrueAtheist]"because of her own mistake"
Her? It takes two people to make a baby[/quote]
I never said it was only one person's fault.
[quote=dopeazn]The fetus has no agency at all. However, it can react to stimuli. There is no question that it is your baby and it is alive, no matter if it can think or not. It has its own strand of dna, it's an independent human being, it's not just some trash you can throw out. To the people who support abortion just google image "abortion" with safesearch off. Look at those semi developed baby corpses and tell me that's not disturbing. Think of it this way, it becomes increasingly immoral to kill the fetus the more it develops. At some point it's just a lump of cells but soon it becomes a baby. Where do you draw the line and say it's ok for me to kill this guy right now before he gets too big, I won't feel sorry just because he can't think. Just some food for thought.
It's not really any of my business because I'm a guy and it's not my body, and I can't really make a strong case for either of them. But I would never date a girl or respect a girl who got an abortion, no matter how you look at it she killed a human being because of her own mistake. I look at her like a disgusting irresponsible person that ran away from her problems. And if you're a crazy ass delusional feminist who says that's not a baby, shut the hell up. Good moms hold their womb lovingly and think of it as their child. Crazy ass women think of it as a leech, a parasite that happens to live in their body. It doesn't sit right with me. I'm not a religious guy at all, but I don't believe in someone else paying for your f* up. They can do whatever they want, but don't expect respect from people just because it's legal.[/quote]
"because of her own mistake"
Her? It takes two people to make a baby
pro choice = horny people without morals
I judge you for smoking.
[quote=NonSonoFronz]@dopeazn: But the thing is, a lot of things react to stimuli and have their own DNA.
Let me ask you this though. Now, please don't take this with any kind of aggression because I'm not trying to start something tonight. But I'm curious here.
Say a woman got pregnant and due to some unforeseen circumstances and if she gives birth to this child, she will die.
But if she aborts the child, she will be able to live.
What do you believe is the right call to make here? Does the right to potential life outweigh the right to currently live?[/quote]
It's up to the woman to decide.
@dopeazn: But the thing is, a lot of things react to stimuli and have their own DNA.
Let me ask you this though. Now, please don't take this with any kind of aggression because I'm not trying to start something tonight. But I'm curious here.
Say a woman got pregnant and due to some unforeseen circumstances and if she gives birth to this child, she will die.
But if she aborts the child, she will be able to live.
What do you believe is the right call to make here? Does the right to potential life outweigh the right to currently live?
I lean more towards pro-life, but i can understand the POV when it comes to pro-choice. If you make a bonehead mistake of having unprotected sex, i can see why girls at a very young age are scared to have a baby because they're not ready yet.
plus, they don't have a proper job, proper time to take care of their kids, etc.
but if they constantly keep going to the abortion clinic, well, that's really stupid. i'd rather just advocate protected sex a lot more, which has been the case so far from the teen pregnancy statistics.
Pro choice because who am I to tell someone what they should do with their own body? It's their body not mines, so they have every right to make that decision on their own regardless of what others think.
It's like if a stranger came up to you and your partner (who are married) and told you: "you're getting divorced now." They have no right to make you divorce one another because it's not their business. Just my two cents
[quote=NonSonoFronz]If someone could explain to me how a fetus has agency, especially at the early stages, then I'm still going to be pro-choice but I'll have a listen anyways.[/quote]
The fetus has no agency at all. However, it can react to stimuli. There is no question that it is your baby and it is alive, no matter if it can think or not. It has its own strand of dna, it's an independent human being, it's not just some trash you can throw out. To the people who support abortion just google image "abortion" with safesearch off. Look at those semi developed baby corpses and tell me that's not disturbing. Think of it this way, it becomes increasingly immoral to kill the fetus the more it develops. At some point it's just a lump of cells but soon it becomes a baby. Where do you draw the line and say it's ok for me to kill this guy right now before he gets too big, I won't feel sorry just because he can't think. Just some food for thought.
It's not really any of my business because I'm a guy and it's not my body, and I can't really make a strong case for either of them. But I would never date a girl or respect a girl who got an abortion, no matter how you look at it she killed a human being because of her own mistake. I look at her like a disgusting irresponsible person that ran away from her problems. And if you're a crazy ass delusional feminist who says that's not a baby, shut the hell up. Good moms hold their womb lovingly and think of it as their child. Crazy ass women think of it as a leech, a parasite that happens to live in their body. It doesn't sit right with me. I'm not a religious guy at all, but I don't believe in someone else paying for your f* up. They can do whatever they want, but don't expect respect from people just because it's legal.
@Thiefy996: Urgh church of arceus is soooooo last hour, church of goomy is where it's at!
Pro-choice because if Jesus was walking around on earth today that's what he would want. And I'm a good Christian out here spreading the word of what Jesus would want.
Pro choice. I see it as if the women isn't able to take care of the kid, whether that's emotionally or financially, she shouldn't have to. Yeah, there's adoption, but generally, the adopted kids I know are a bit bitter about their situation and really can't care for their adopted families because they don't look like them (huge emphasis on the GENERALLY as there are some who don't mind). I'm assuming they even make it out of the adoption agency though.
I really don't think you should put a kid through that kind of hardships plus the world has enough people and poverty as is.
It's not my body, I have no right to force someone to not do something. I do, however, think that choosing to have your fetus torn out is reprehensible.
The church of Arceus states that all unwanted babies must be wondertraded away.
So I'm going with Pro-Life
(Jk I'm really pro choice)
If someone could explain to me how a fetus has agency, especially at the early stages, then I'm still going to be pro-choice but I'll have a listen anyways.
>You will not be judged here
>*insert opinion on Pro Choice*
>MAH CHRISTIANITY SAYS UR GUNNA GO 2 HELL!
Sorry OP, welcome to the internet.
[quote=imWanta]It's my body, if I want to get 10000000000 abortions don't try and stop me. My body is not just a baby factory I can choose what I want and what I don't want. Human Rights.[/quote]
I was always curious on what a females perspective on the matter was. Thank you for your input
[quote=ehnogi]I'm pro-choice. People can choose to produce life, or people can choose to prevent birth.[/quote]
I agree, people might look at you bad for your views, but if someone is unfit to be a parent who's to say they must have it? A woman's body is her business, let her do as she pleases.
Ya, pro-choice.
"you will not be judged here"
yes you will lol, that's why flame wars break out.
Anyways, i'm pro-choice. If you aren't prepared to have a baby then it's going to lead to more hardships for you, the baby, and your family. Why put a child through that, i guess there's always adoption but i've read/heard some pretty bad cases regarding that, however i've also read/heard some nice outcomes. Still pro-choice though
I'm pro-choice. People can choose to produce life, or people can choose to prevent giving birth.