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[quote=Hatchet]Too bad he said none of those things.

And even if he did, why would you even get offended in the first place. If someone insulted my favourite show, I really wouldn't care, and you shouldn't either. It's a tv show.[/quote]
Um, yes he did. Did you read the original post at all?
Just because it's just a tv show, doesn't make it any less significant. People take pride in the things they enjoy, and that's a good thing.

[quote=sparkshooter]Just because a comment isn't directed at your ability/work doesn't mean it isn't considered offensive. The majority of the population would agree that it's offensive if someone called a show that they enjoyed "idiotic," "stupid crap," and should "end already."[/quote]

Too bad he said none of those things.

And even if he did, why would you even get offended in the first place. If someone insulted my favourite show, I really wouldn't care, and you shouldn't either. It's a tv show.

[quote=Johnaton90]One Piece is actually good. Hunter x Hunter is good also
Onepiece>Hunter x hunter> the rest

To everyone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9y5KR7_MNs[/quote]
You sir speak my kind of language
(but i do enjoy the small animes too)

no becuz tokyo ghoul = best anime 2k14-2k15

[quote=Hatchet]Those things aren't even offensive, the only person who would actually find those things offensive would be the author.[/quote]
Just because a comment isn't directed at your ability/work doesn't mean it isn't considered offensive. The majority of the population would agree that it's offensive if someone called a show that they enjoyed "idiotic," "stupid crap," and should "end already."

Best troll ever

I personally don't rank SAO and AoT with the same category as Naruto, bleach, one piece(they have over 300+ eps spanning 10+ years/multiple movies). It's refreshing for me to watch something really light hearted/easy to enjoy like SAO after watching those serious animes like Speed Grapher/Psycho-pass.

Half of the reason I watch these animes is so that I can fangirl and ship.
Also, on that list, I only watch 3 of them. -3-
One Piece is bomb, man.

@GunsTheSparkle Can't argue with that.

[quote=Amuro]I don't think there's anything immature about holding a strong negative opinion about a piece of art or anything else. After all, opinions are produced by your own internal logic, and are not meant to be taken as facts. If you like it, you like it. If you hate it, you hate it. Whether you're puking rainbows or your half digested lunch, it's still your puke. I don't like Sword Art Online. In fact, I hate it with the burning intensity of 1000 blue stars. If I express that on a board like I just did, what part of that makes me arrogant? I'm just throwing my thought out there, and fundamentally, it's no different from when someone else comes and says they love it. The real arrogance comes from believing your opinion is better than the opinion of someone else, and it works both ways. If someone likes SAO and I blatantly say they're wrong and try to change their opinion, that's arrogance. Likewise, if someone who loves SAO mindlessly labels my more negative opinion of it as "hating" and something that should be dismissed, that's arrogance too.[/quote]

It's not so much as their opinion is wrong. It's just that based purely on the post, it's based off of ignorance. OP doesn't know what he's talking about.

[quote=sparkshooter]"No offense," when half of the things you typed were clearly offensive, and made to be offensive.[/quote]

Those things aren't even offensive, the only person who would actually find those things offensive would be the author.

You don't understand how popular the animes you've listed really are. I lived in japan for 3 months and all I can say is "SAO, AoT, Bleach, One Piece, HunterXHunter, Naruto, and all that kind of stuff" dominates. Sure there are thousands upon thousands of animes you could recommend, but in japan those are what really stand out in manga,merchandise, costumes. Its like seeing pop music over here, all we hear on the radio is justin bieber,jason derulo, ariana grande, etc and so people who listen to pop go crazy over them. We know they're pretty bad and wouldn't give a penny for their songs, but someone from another country sees these are the most popular and will try to "understand" it because apparently its whats "good". Believe me, when I went to an arcade in japan, I saw all these figurines of anime characters I have never ever seen or thought existed and have since then tried to find out where they're from. But people on subways talk about one piece,naruto, sao, hunterxhunter so its more relatable than something like Kuroshtsuji.

[quote=Maypurstori]Step one in becoming a better human being. Realizing that anything relative to art doesn't have to be just based on the art itself. Movies, music, anime, actual drawn/painted/etc art, as humans we are influenced by outside sources, the atmosphere of what we're watching, our current mood, popular social standard, etc. Whatever the reason may be, whether you're watching it as a tribute to your best friend dying since it was their favorite anime, or because some hot girl likes it, the fact of the matter is, there's no point in arguing about it because that piece or art isn't the only thing that decides whether or not they like it.

Hating things doesn't make you cool, it doesn't make the things you look more validated, all it does it make you seem boring. Talk about the things you love, and share it with people. I personally don't like a majority of the animes you've listed, but I'm not arrogant enough to call the things other people like bad, same goes for all other art forms. I'm not saying I'm the most mature person, I'm simply saying maturing as a person means that you've come to realize that in art, there is no "good" and "bad", just things that you [i]currently[/i] dislike or like.[/quote]
I don't think there's anything immature about holding a strong negative opinion about a piece of art or anything else. After all, opinions are produced by your own internal logic, and are not meant to be taken as facts. If you like it, you like it. If you hate it, you hate it. Whether you're puking rainbows or your half digested lunch, it's still your puke. I don't like Sword Art Online. In fact, I hate it with the burning intensity of 1000 blue stars. If I express that on a board like I just did, what part of that makes me arrogant? I'm just throwing my thought out there, and fundamentally, it's no different from when someone else comes and says they love it. The real arrogance comes from believing your opinion is better than the opinion of someone else, and it works both ways. If someone likes SAO and I blatantly say they're wrong and try to change their opinion, that's arrogance. Likewise, if someone who loves SAO mindlessly labels my more negative opinion of it as "hating" and something that should be dismissed, that's arrogance too.

It's kind of sad when people lump AoT in with all those other anime, because quite frankly it casts a giant shadow over the others in terms of popularity. It's surpassed what we consider "big-name anime" and become a token anime in Japan, like Doraemon, Chibimaruko-chan, and Sazae-san. Of course it's not nearly as old, but it's quickly being used in advertising ([url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVFEWg-43DE]Subaru Forester[/url], [url=http://38.media.tumblr.com/0f7d4e16c2f4a7b94e3b6a8214d1bd00/tumblr_n0ht6jeH3y1t2db2jo1_500.jpg]laundry detergent[/url]) and limited edition candy box designs ([url=http://www.theotakutimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/25.jpg]Choco-ball[/url], [url=http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b7/e9/b9/b7e9b952f9c63ebede6cd6a38e08a683.jpg]chips[/url], [url=http://www.quest-for-japan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Puccho3.jpg]Puccho[/url]), and Guren no Yumiya was featured on the most popular New Year's TV program (44.5% of viewers were watching it). I think the highlight, though, is the fact that if you ask almost anyone in Japan if they're seen AoT, they'll answer yes, even if they aren't an anime fan. Every single young person I talked to on my trip to Japan said something about AoT at least once.

Dismissing a popular anime just because it's popular is a really closed-minded idea; if it's really popular there must be a reason.

@Darkness129: LOL

[quote=xdean23]No offense, but I've read about half of each manga on those series. I mean, flashback stories, character's backgrounds, too long fights are giving me thoughts of "seriously?"[/quote]
"No offense," when half of the things you typed were clearly offensive, and made to be offensive.

No offense, but I've read about half of each manga on those series. I mean, flashback stories, character's backgrounds, too long fights are giving me thoughts of "seriously?"

[quote=Maypurstori]Step one in becoming a better human being. Realizing that anything relative to art doesn't have to be just based on the art itself. Movies, music, anime, actual drawn/painted/etc art, as humans we are influenced by outside sources, the atmosphere of what we're watching, our current mood, popular social standard, etc. Whatever the reason may be, whether you're watching it as a tribute to your best friend dying since it was their favorite anime, or because some hot girl likes it, the fact of the matter is, there's no point in arguing about it because that piece or art isn't the only thing that decides whether or not they like it.

Hating things doesn't make you cool, it doesn't make the things you look more validated, all it does it make you seem boring. Talk about the things you love, and share it with people. I personally don't like a majority of the animes you've listed, but I'm not arrogant enough to call the things other people like bad, same goes for all other art forms. I'm not saying I'm the most mature person, I'm simply saying maturing as a person means that you've come to realize that in art, there is no "good" and "bad", just things that you [i]currently[/i] dislike or like.

Yes, they are milking Nisekoi like crazy, does that mean it's bad? What does bad even mean? Do the people that are still watching it like it? Then popular opinion dictates that it's still good, or popularly liked. What about the scenes within the extension of the anime? I for one think they're still hilarious, regardless of whether or not it should've ended long ago, and that's what the whole purpose of my watching the anime was, so I by all means will continue watching.

tl;dr you still have a lot to learn young one[/quote]
This is by far, one of the most inspiring/heartfelt things I've read in awhile.

@Skyenets
And this possibly, the best proposal on Basilmarket, ever.

i don't really like action anime so if there's any reason for me not liking most of the stuff you listed it's that

if the only reason you have to dislike those is the fact they're popular then you're probably just trying to fit in with people who also dislike these

I do hate SAO, because it sucks, but not because its hyped. Hipsters are the worst

Or we can all just watch whatever we enjoy.

If you want to talk OP, let's talk Tatsuya from Mahouka.

Because it's hard to find titles that are unheard of. Are you asking me to go search into 1000's of anime till I find something good? No thanks, I have better things to do.

[quote=xdean23]I find SAO, AoT, Bleach, One Piece, HunterXHunter, Naruto, and all that kind of stuff idiotic. Seriously? On let's have a badass character that will [b]always win [/b]and be op and never lose and will be back up whenever he falls down. HERP DERP. I'm Kirito. I get all the gurlz. I'm Ichigo. Bankai. IM SO OP.
[/quote]

Luffy spends three arcs straight getting his butt kicked. Gon has a losing streak and an a$$pull. Ichigo has many losses (who just let him live), and even Kirito has at least one loss.

Just so we're clear.

[quote=Billakid]the only thing thats actually bad and hyped on your list is AOT AND SAO[/quote]

That's funny because Titan is the only exceptional one out of all of them. I don't watch OP or HxH

I haven't watched many animes, but I really liked AoT a lot. If anything, it's just worth watching it for the soundtrack. That's one of the best parts of it.

You need to watch [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AHo-_XEV6E]this.[/url]

Clearly hasn't seen Hunter x Hunter either.
Gon is weak, and is constantly reminded of that, nearly dying multiple times through the series.
In fact one of the biggest parts of the Chimera ant arc is Gon's losing battle against Knuckle.

And the OP has never read a manhwa ever if they think that manga are milking it.

Go back to your boring high school crap

I don't even know what's happening anymore

Dude Eren's always losing in AoT.

you aren't special anymore boohoo they stole my anime

Out of those you listed, only AoT would be in my top. Hyped or not, I liked it a lot, regardless of what everyone says. I love it, I don't care about others opinion as long as I am not bashed on.
Over those, there are way, way better anime I would rather watch(Another, Mirai Nikki, Steins;Gate, Deadman Wonderland, Psycho Pass, Fate/Zero etc etc)

Nahhhhh. All of the anime's you listed are all my favs and you can't do nothin about it.

the only thing thats actually bad and hyped on your list is AOT AND SAO

I kind of agree with you... but for different reasons.

Personally, I hate that these series, which are generally middle-of-the-road, get so hyped, mainly for being super power-fantasy series. They're probably alright anime, but I cannot see them being in the top 10 of any sensible person's anime watch list.

What I'm curious about is why you thought this deserved a thread. I'm sure most people who've seen more than 10 different series think similarly.

But one piece is so good, and luffy does lose. so yeah. not unbeatable.

Never is strong word, too strong for any of the anime you listed.

How the hell could you compare those tittles in such an inaccurate way.....did you even watch all of those shows?

[quote=Caeg]Why don't you go talk about how PCs are so much better, how Android is superior to iPhones, how Call of Duty is crap, how today's music is terrible, and how everyone besides you is a complete idiot.[/quote]

www.reddit.com/r/lewronggeneration

for starters i'm alucard from hellsing:
a [b]real[/b] vampire with over 500 years of combat experience and a lust for blood, i steamroll over anyone and everyone who dares threaten my master, sir integra hellsing. the only women that accompany me, seras and integra, are major badasses, but none can compare to my power. i gleefully take damage like a masochist, regenerating all my wounds in the process.

piss me off, and i reveal my true form. you won't leave alive afterwards; for my enemies tremble before my true strength as being worse than the devil himself.

You're basically just following what you think is "cool" in that you hate these animes like naruto, sao, bleach,etc. I seriously doubt you can differentiate animes based on their negatives and positives correctly. But rather than that, there's no point of bashing on specific anime or manga. Everyone has different tastes and can enjoy whatever they please.

Why don't you go talk about how PCs are so much better, how Android is superior to iPhones, how Call of Duty is crap, how today's music is terrible, and how everyone besides you is a complete idiot.

I watch it cause it's entertaining.

[quote=Maypurstori]Step one in becoming a better human being. Realizing that anything relative to art doesn't have to be just based on the art itself. Movies, music, anime, actual drawn/painted/etc art, as humans we are influenced by outside sources, the atmosphere of what we're watching, our current mood, popular social standard, etc. Whatever the reason may be, whether you're watching it as a tribute to your best friend dying since it was their favorite anime, or because some hot girl likes it, the fact of the matter is, there's no point in arguing about it because that piece or art isn't the only thing that decides whether or not they like it.[/quote]

why advocate for this? art is and definitely should be judged on its own merits. its okay to like something that isn't great because of the outside sources you mention, but it's important to realize that is your influence. it's so, so easy to just take a minute to think about why you like something and supplement your opinions/statements accordingly.

ot: i really don't burst with anime hate unless there's some tie to existing issues. how sexist anime is/can be, for example. a series deep into sexism is going to push my buttons like no other, regardless of quality.
on a more minor note, i've seen a few shows that felt like they had little regard for the viewer. things like Wizard Barristers or SAO seemed to treat the viewer as an idiot (the latter) or fail to make anything meaningful or coherent (the former). they ended up feeling like an insult or a waste of time, and left a bad taste in my mouth.

at the very least OP, i'd object to your pretty casual inclusion of HxH in a list of shonen. Togashi pretty regularly uses the usual shonen tropes in ways that are new or subversive, unless he's avoiding them wholesale. it also functions on a non-standard system that is mostly immune to Power Levels.

hyped != bad
causation != correlation

I like to believe that everyone on this site has an IQ higher than a 5th grader, but I guess we can't have nice things.

Step one in becoming a better human being. Realizing that anything relative to art doesn't have to be just based on the art itself. Movies, music, anime, actual drawn/painted/etc art, as humans we are influenced by outside sources, the atmosphere of what we're watching, our current mood, popular social standard, etc. Whatever the reason may be, whether you're watching it as a tribute to your best friend dying since it was their favorite anime, or because some hot girl likes it, the fact of the matter is, there's no point in arguing about it because that piece or art isn't the only thing that decides whether or not they like it.

Hating things doesn't make you cool, it doesn't make the things you look more validated, all it does it make you seem boring. Talk about the things you love, and share it with people. I personally don't like a majority of the animes you've listed, but I'm not arrogant enough to call the things other people like bad, same goes for all other art forms. I'm not saying I'm the most mature person, I'm simply saying maturing as a person means that you've come to realize that in art, there is no "good" and "bad", just things that you [i]currently[/i] dislike or like.

Yes, they are milking Nisekoi like crazy, does that mean it's bad? What does bad even mean? Do the people that are still watching it like it? Then popular opinion dictates that it's still good, or popularly liked. What about the scenes within the extension of the anime? I for one think they're still hilarious, regardless of whether or not it should've ended long ago, and that's what the whole purpose of my watching the anime was, so I by all means will continue watching.

tl;dr you still have a lot to learn young one

If you hate hyped anime you don't like anime just because it's popular... You're just as bad as the people who hype over anime.

[quote=Johnaton90]One Piece is actually good. Hunter x Hunter is good also
Onepiece>Hunter x hunter> the rest

To everyone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9y5KR7_MNs[/quote]

I second this.